Before a new cloud model ships, a small group of customers is already testing it, breaking it, and shaping with ships with it. We sat down to see what they're learning. When you get something new from Anthropic, what is the energy like? We know it's storms ahead, but there's something exciting about a storm because it's all hands on deck. Yeah, it feels like we're moving at the speed of light. That's like getting the call and jumping from whatever you're working on. We have something new, let's figure out what it's like. The moment we get a new model from Astropec, we realize the grounding has changed. What's it like to work at a company that's helping to shape the frontier? It's insanely fun. All of us are just in learning mode. This moment just feels like a generational opportunity for anyone in this industry. I feel very lucky and also very responsible. We need to continue to push the envelope, continue innovating, be more secure, and making things easier to build with. In a way, I love that I can unlock a new class of developers and builders. What's the first thing you throw at a new model? The very first thing is we will start automated evals just so that they start running in the background. One use case that is kind of hype-tream, that's easy to point to as a particularly complex The legal task is drafting an S1. And now with agenda capabilities where these models can go out and find information that they need, synthesize it, edit documents, we're getting to larger and larger chunks of the S1 that you can kind of just send the model on its way to do. Just by swapping in that one model, every question I ever want to ask it started getting answered. You know, when from this agent can sometimes answer questions, sometimes get stuck to, oh my God, it is answering every question quickly and accurately the dashboard of the testing agent's success rate has just increased by, I think, 20%. Things that don't work today are the best sign for, here's what the next models are going to be way better at. Seeing evals that have never worked start working and then start working consistently, this model is going to be something special. What's it like working with Anthropic? It feels like I have a conversation with you almost every other day. The engineers on the team, I feel like, are almost on the same team. It's less like we're just buying something from Jermio. More like we can kind of build with you. We have a very high trust bar that anything you publish is not going to be slow. What is one word or phrase that characterizes what it feels like to actually be building at the frontier? Dazzling, if that makes sense. It can be kind of blinding at times. Just the brightness and opportunity and excitement. Compounding. We get the latest tools, which leads to our customers getting a better product, which leads to us getting better products. You have a big wave under you that is changing the way your user is working and changing the way you are working. And you have to keep your balance, and you know there are bigger waves coming.